This clip aired on WarRoom’s evening show on November 12, 2025.
Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity; may contain minor errors).
NATALIE WINTERS (CO-HOST): “Well, look, they’re all progressives, and they’re all even at best when they pretend to be MAGA, socially liberal. For all the money that we’ve poured into Silicon Valley, maybe there’s one company, Palantir, Boo Palantir, that’s getting contracts to allegedly help deport. How’s that going? But I don’t see a lot of technological innovation going on front of securing our borders or ensuring that we can deport illegals. No, they’re busy cramming their companies full of H1B tech workers.
But I think a really important term, I’m sure Joe Allen has introduced it to this audience, but to understand what is going on a psychological level of these tech bro types, Sam Altman being the poster child for it, formerly predecessor, I would say SBF, is this concept of effective altruism. The idea that it does not matter what you have to do. You should maximize your capital, do whatever you can to make money, and then use that for utilitarian purposes to achieve a greater good through community service, all the basically big time tech scammers, both in the literal sense but also just a more vague or broader use of the term scammer, all really have sort of subscribed to that ideology. And I think Sam Altman is a perfect example. And I think when you see their sort of wishy washy description of what they want to do, for an example, once they’re called out, which, I don’t know about you, if they were forthright with what they were doing it would certainly be a little less scary, though it is still very scary. But then it becomes about ridding, you know, babies of diseases. That is a limited hangout as to what they’re really working on.
And I also think another point that I would make, particularly in the case of Sam, you know, we’re always signal not noise here in the war room, but this individual, not just because of what he’s doing over at Open AI, but the position that he had before that, essentially leading Y Combinator, which is one of the leading startup vessels that pumps, it’s like the highest check you can basically have written to your company. He has been the one making decisions of what companies get funded for years, for nearly five years. So that mindset, whether it’s designer babies or progressivism, that is what undergirds the entire tech community. And don’t fall for it. Like I said yesterday, the people who are pretending to be MAGA or put up the website after they reached out for comment by the Wall Street Journal, those are the most deceptive, sociopathic, and certainly psychopathic people in our midst.”
STEVE BANNON (HOST): “I sent you earlier a tweet he put up about what Charlie Kirk said, and I think this was back in mid August. Right. This is the social compact. One, mass deportations. Two, stop the H1B scam. Three, dramatically reduce legal immigration. Dramatically reduce legal immigration. Four, end chain migration and the visa lottery. Five, build 10 million homes for Americans. Six, crush the college cartel. Ma’am, your thoughts on that.”
NATALIE WINTERS (CO-HOST): “Well, I thought that that was what I voted for, but it seems like with each passing day we’re straying a little bit further and further away from that. I think it’s the point that immigration is both an economic issue but also a cultural issue. Right. We want to deport these people not just because they’re depriving Americans of their wages, of their jobs, but also what they’re doing to the cultural fabric, what they’re doing to these neighborhoods. Neighborhoods. It’s a compounding issue.
And two, I also think that the sort of limited hangout, to use that term again, version that we’re getting of this, it sort of ideologically rests on what I think is the original sin, which is the idea that Americans are not enough. And it sort of undergirds even the designer baby idea, the H1B debate over what it means to be an American. Should we be studying 25 hours a day, increase the length of the day so all we can do is study. That’s not what this country was founded on.
If you look at the history of us going back to the revolution, the pre revolutionary days, it’s this idea of civil society and community. That’s something that is distinctly unique. But I also think that you see this sort of just a core lie that permeates into the H1B narrative, which is, again, both cultural but also economic. And it’s this idea that we need to import foreigners in order to continue to be the America that we once were.
And I want to just cite a statistic from the White House’s own website because what was it just a month ago, they were busy pumping the airwaves with ideas that they were going to basically reform, if not get rid of, the H1B program. But what it shows is the share of IT workers in the H1B program grew from 32 percent in 2003 to an average of over 65 percent. That’s an aggregate of the last five years.
What is the significance of that? America was a great country and was the leading in technological innovation, and basically every industry it dominated, long before the H1B program was ever around. And you can’t tell me that from 2003 to now it’s been H1B Indians that don’t even speak English or Chinese spies stealing whatever it may be, not just for civilian use but for military use from our leading tech companies, that somehow helped bridge that gap.
And if you look, the other lie, Steve, that is so critical to understand, get ready for this, I’m sure you’ve heard it, best and brightest, right, that we’re bringing into this country, whether it’s the H1B or the foreign students. That’s not true. Now, they play the sort of weird game where they intentionally hide the data. It’s like what they do with the deportations or the actual numbers of immigrants, illegal aliens coming in, because they don’t want us to be informed.
Publicly available data, compounded with the studies that groups like Center for Immigration Studies have done, shows the overwhelming majority, I’m talking upwards of 80 percent, of the H1B recipients who are coming into this country, which oftentimes is via lottery, though they reformed that slightly, are in the level one and level two qualification of skill and pay, which means they’re not the best. They’re the worst. And they’re the most attached to the culture that they’re coming from, and they have nothing American about them. And frankly, they have a fake diploma from a fake Indian university where the person sitting next to them is probably a robocaller scamming you.
So these people are not the best and brightest. It’s such a lie from start to finish. Every corner of what this H1B rests on is outright propaganda. But the core of it is the idea that you are not enough as an American citizen. We see that with the tech bros. We see it with the designer babies. We see it with the immigration policy.
And the last thing I would say to you is I don’t know what is more concerning. That Secretary Nome thinks it’s a good idea to go on TV and hail the maximum amount of naturalized citizens. She thinks that that’s something that’s going to go over well. Or that it’s actually happening. Because had it been Secretary Mayorkas saying that, that would have been cut as a campaign ad and used as a clip in the President Trump that was running on the campaign trail.”
