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Natalie Winters: Color Revolution 2.0: Inside Brookings, Norm Eisen, and the Information War

"They’re running cover for a fraudulent election… it’s information warfare to deceive and dupe Americans into believing there is no fraud.”

Grace Chong by Grace Chong
December 2, 2025
in Election Integrity, Transcripts
Reading Time: 5 mins read
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Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity).

NATALIE WINTERS (CO-HOST): “Well, as a student of color revolution history, I have to say I quite enjoyed the cold open. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Jonathan Karl use so many euphemistic terms to try to describe the stolen election. I guess they’ve gotten the memo maybe from the legal department that they should be choosing their words a little more carefully.

But on that point, you’re exactly right to include in that cold open that clip. Lisa Rubin’s analysis of this forthcoming Supreme Court case obviously impacts 16 states and Washington, D.C. But it’s interesting, not just in tracking Mark Elias and Democracy Docket, their organization, which has been putting out nonstop fearmongering the last few weeks about the implications or stakes of this case.

Another really important entity is the Brookings Institution. That’s where Norm Eisen used to do most of his work. Now he’s at the Contrarian, but that was always ground zero for the color revolution via what was called The Democracy Playbook. I’ve talked about this forever. Darren Beattie and Revolver did a lot of seminal reporting on it—basically using the tactics that they used abroad in other countries to carry out regime change here in the United States.

And believe it or not, just a few days ago, those very same people, under the auspices of the Brookings Institution, as part of a continuation of that program, just put out a new long-form report entitled Mail Voting in the U.S.: Data Points to Very Low Fraud and Significant Benefits to Voters.

Now, full stop, that’s a lie, and I’d like to read Norm Eisen’s summary of it because it sounds like a hostage statement—blink if you’re okay, Norm. "My Brookings colleagues find mail voting is secure and has substantial benefits for election administration and tons of millions of voters. They also find that fraud is exceedingly rare, especially in universal vote-by-mail systems.”

He’s been tweeting this out all day—basically the same quote—so either there’s some glitch or, like I said, he’s being held hostage. But the timing of this is very interesting. They’re really focusing on this.

And if we want to play the clip, I think the audience will really enjoy it. This is Mark Elias talking to Jasmine Crockett.”

STEVE BANNON (HOST): “This is one of my favorites. I actually put a pretty snarky headline on it when I put it up on Getter last night. Do we have the Jasmine Crockett thing? Let’s go ahead and play it.”

JASMINE CROCKETT (clip):

One of his friends has purchased Dominion. So it’s going to be really important for us to educate all states that we can to make sure that their Secretaries of State are like, "We don’t want the Dominion machines.” Because I personally believe that that ally purchased Dominion so that he could potentially play with the machines. We know that they’re trying to cheat by changing the lines for the midterms, and I think they’re trying to solidify their cheat potentially with the voting machines.

STEVE BANNON (HOST): “So Natalie Winters, Tina Peters is in prison in Denver—a medium security prison. It’s pretty rough for women. She’s a political prisoner. And you have Jasmine Crockett. She sounds like a guest on WarRoom, does she not, ma’am?”

NATALIE WINTERS (CO-HOST): “I think a guest on WarRoom Battleground, aired only on Lindell TV—the most radical, the Friday night final segment slot. But Steve, this shows you how principally inconsistent and hypocritical these people are. At the core of it, they know they’re running cover for a fraudulent election.

And I think it’s quite interesting too, Steve, obviously my beat being the color revolution. We sort of take it for granted, but it is bizarre that all of the organizations actively sabotaging Trump are also concurrently in the left-wing space of "securing and protecting elections.”

But I’ve never found a left-leaning group that actually set out to meaningfully fix the shortcomings in our third-world, if not fourth-world, election system. What it is, is information warfare to deceive and dupe Americans into believing there is no fraud and that there cannot be fraud.

Case in point: this Brookings report is trying to lie to Americans. It’s propaganda saying there are no issues with mail-in ballots, not proposing a better way to do it. We can all agree there are ways to improve the system, but they have no interest in talking about that, because it’s information warfare.”

STEVE BANNON (HOST): “This is today, because the two things they’re freaking out about this afternoon are the Supreme Court and going after the Supreme Court. And of course, once they do away with the filibuster, they’re going to try to pack the court to 13 associate justices from the nine they have today, or the eight they have today with the Chief Justice.

Then you have the conspiracy, the vast conspiracy effort—it was the lead story in the Daily Mail—so we know it’s getting through. Tie those together, because one, they’re going to be defending against this conspiracy showing the color revolution and how it started—what they did to stop Trump from taking office and then stop Trump from actually executing his office as President of the United States—all the way through to the current time. You hear them today, they’re in total meltdown about this, ma’am.”

NATALIE WINTERS (CO-HOST): “Well, I would also add that I think you’re hearing the resurgence quite heavily—you even saw it in the cold open—of this idea of President Trump not leaving, which empirically is not true, even though he should not have left if you look at who actually won the election.

But that in and of itself is rage baiting, if not laying the moral justification. You tie this all together, and like you always say, it’s pattern recognition. It’s the same people involved in election integrity but also in the lawsuits of the people they claim to be opposing election integrity.

Because at the end of the day, if you follow the money, the original sin of the left-wing ecosystem is pretending this is organic and grassroots—that it’s what the American people want. It’s not. In the same way there are paid protesters, these are paid litigators and paid talking heads on MSNBC.

Sure, the paycheck might come from MSNBC, but it’s part of broader institutions like Brookings and all the stuff Norm has been involved with. Which, by the way, it’s Norm Eisen’s birthday today.”

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