Laura Loomer argues that the United States gets far more from its partnership with Israel than it gives and says the only path forward is full Israeli sovereignty without dependence on annual American aid.
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This clip aired on WarRoom’s morning show on November 14, 2025. Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity; may contain minor errors).
LAURA LOOMER (GUEST): Well, obviously, we have seen a pivot, right, Steve. There is a lot of anti Israel rhetoric on the left and also now on the right where we are seeing extreme hostility towards not just the state of Israel but also Jewish people. I called this Israel derangement syndrome. And I know you and I kind of got into a back and forth last time I was on your show. But my point was that we need to start focusing on the bigger picture. People want to criticize Israel.
When you break down the number and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the value of aid. You have 3.8 billion dollars per year. Sometimes it is 3.3. Sometimes it is 3.8 that we give Israel. Now there was a report, Steve, that came out the other day that showed that our return on that investment is about 48 billion dollars a year. Whether that is through weapons sales or technology or investments in pharmaceuticals, whatever it may be.
We certainly get a lot more out of our relationship with Israel than we give to Israel every single year. However, it does not matter what the numbers are. There is no convincing a very large fraction of Gen Z and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives that our relationship with Israel is beneficial. That is not going to change the fact that Israel is always going to be our ally.
And so when I was in Israel I met with military officials, I met with members of the Knesset, I met with high level Israeli politicians, and I had discussions about this. And ultimately what I said is, well, why do you not just embrace cutting off aid, cutting off aid to Israel. What is the worst that could happen.
You are a sovereign nation. I mean, if the United States is getting 48 billion dollars a year out of this relationship with Israel and our investment into Israel, then it is our loss, really. It is our loss as the United States of America if America does not want to appreciate the return on investment with the aid that we are providing Israel every single year.
I also told these officials when I met with them that I do not think that Israel does a good enough job highlighting the benefit of our relationship with Israel. What do I mean by that. Well, people say, oh, well, they are just trying to interfere in our elections with AIPAC. First of all, I am not here to defend AIPAC. I think that AIPAC should actually have to register with FARA. However, when we cut off aid to Israel, that is the great thing. We are not going to need AIPAC anymore. We are not going to need AIPAC anymore, because the whole point of AIPAC is to convince politicians in Washington, D.C. to support Israel.
So this whole debate about Israeli interference in our elections, poof, it is gone. It disappears. And so we are able to do two things simultaneously. We are able to help Israel truly become a sovereign nation. We are going to take these golden handcuffs, as I like to call them, off of the Israelis, because America First means not dictating what other countries do. If you are truly a sovereign nation, and I know that you will agree with me on this, Steve, America First means not telling other countries what to do.
And you make that argument during the two year war between Israel and Hamas. And people say, well, we are paying for those weapons that are being used to bomb people in Gaza. So we have every right to tell Israel what to do as it relates to not bombing Iran or not leveling Gaza. Well, if we are not giving Israel 3.8 billion dollars a year, who are we. Who are we, Steve, to tell Israel what they can and cannot do.
So when it comes to taking out the Ayatollah, when it comes to going into Gaza, if they violate the ceasefire, Americans are no longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps assassinating the Ayatollah or flattening Gaza, right. As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel, that is what it means if we are truly going to be America First and we are not going to be giving Israel the 3.8 billion dollars a year and benefiting from the 48 billion in return.
And so I was pleased to see Netanyahu pair my argument.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Before we get to the punchline, I want to make sure we go back. Because there is a lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how weak is Trump’s understanding of geopolitics or national security. He has got Laura Loomer coming in and telling me about the national security guys are not really America First. They are neocons. But when you went to Israel you actually had senior level people that took meetings. Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer. Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer and have Laura Loomer talk to them about what their sovereignty is. That is a scoop right there. Why would they do that.
LAURA LOOMER (GUEST):
Well, look, I think that a lot of the lies that are pushed out against me, they are malicious. I think a lot of them are spewed against me because I am Jewish and because I am a woman. I mean, I am not trying to parrot feminist talking points right now, but there is an animosity towards outsiders. I mean, people have animosity towards you, Steve. And because I am not an elected official. And because I am not an official advisor, people think that I should not have a seat at the table or I should not be able to share my opinion.But I have nearly two point million, nearly two million followers on X. I know that I have been doing this work for a very long time. I have earned the trust of the MAGA base. And obviously the president takes into account what I have to say. Oftentimes the president will call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for my advice. He has admitted this publicly when asked by reporters. And so why would not politicians in Israel and high level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me. Why would not they.
I mean, I am one of the most outspoken and well known Jewish conservative leaders in America. And I am approaching this from an America First perspective. I agree. We are 38 trillion dollars in debt. We need to have a conversation about cutting off aid not just to Israel but to all countries. We do not need to be the sugar daddy of every single country in the world when we really need to be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign.
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