The FBI failure exposed turnaround is now unmistakable after Kash Patel and Dan Bongino removed the old Bureau team and cracked the J6 pipe bomb case in just six weeks.
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This clip aired on WarRoom’s morning show on December 4, 2025. Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity; may contain minor errors).
John Solomon: "The Bureau Is Being Forced to Change”
STEVE BANNON (HOST): John, you got a huge scoop last night on Just the News, but I have got to ask you about the pipe bomb. Kash Patel’s team tells me at 1 o’clock today they are going to have a press conference. Everybody up to speed. Real America’s Voice will obviously cover that live during the Charlie Kirk show. John Solomon, what do you know?
JOHN SOLOMON (GUEST): Well, as I mentioned, I think it was just before Thanksgiving on your show, I thought there would be an arrest this week. They were zeroing in on a gentleman whom they arrested this morning in northern Virginia. And the way this case was cracked was about a month or six weeks ago. Bongino, who was the lead on it, and Patel decided to take the old agents off the case and put a new team on it.
Now, there was a little resistance, as there always is in the FBI to any form of change. But the new team came in. They applied some new ideas and some new technologies and some of the evidence that was sitting right in front of them, with fresh eyes. Who is behind it, whether there are more conspirators or whether this is a lone wolf, still all of that to be determined. But a really extraordinary effort almost five years later, with a fresh set of eyes and a different approach. The FBI that could not solve the case for four and a half years solves it very much like the way the Charlie Kirk investigation occurred in the first few hours.
There were a lot of FBI agents, old guard, that did not want to put the suspect’s photo out. But Kash Patel and Bongino insisted that that was going to be key to getting the father to flip. They put the photo out, the father flips, and of course you get that arrest as we see.
What you are seeing is a different mentality in the FBI. And that plays out in two different ways. First, you see successes that we have not seen in a while. Lots of arrests. Cases solved that had not been solved for a long time. Other cases which could have gone on for months being solved in thirty three hours, like Charlie Kirk’s assassin.
The second part is it results in a lot of whining from FBI people who think they know what is better. And you see that even in the Miranda Devine story earlier this week. You have got these grousers and grouchers because the truth of the matter is Donald Trump ordered Patel and Bongino to break glass at the FBI. They broke glass and now the FBI is doing things differently. They are succeeding, but there are people who want to focus on the whining and crying, not actually the success of what the FBI has been doing.
The way they solved this case was fresh thinking.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Here is what kind of strains credulity. In five and a half years, and Dan comes in, Dan comes in with Kash, but Dan puts on it, finally gets tired of it, puts on a new team. And I understand it is a fresh set of eyes, a different perspective. But it does not strain credulity to think that the original FBI team was really, and this is the problem with all of J6, I mean, were they part of the problem?
Because, I mean, to say that Bongino and these guys came in and in six weeks cracked the case is fantastic. But you sit there and go, particularly you see a lot of these former whistleblowers, people trashing Kash every day. Is the building just still adamantly opposed to Kash, Bongino, and President Trump?
JOHN SOLOMON (GUEST): Fewer and fewer people are opposed. There are even people who were opposed at the beginning, like, this guy is just a talking head, he is not an FBI. And then you start solving cases and people are like, oh, damn, hey, this is working. We are getting bad guys off the street.
So there are two or three dynamics going on in the Bureau. The first is, there are people that are still the Deep State. And as Kash Patel and Dan Bongino find them, they throw them out, or they twist them in a way that they are required to show us what the Deep State did the last six or eight years that we did not know about.
Early on, there was some question. Why was Kash Patel keeping certain people behind? Because those people wanted to keep their pension. And Kash Patel and Dan Bongino wanted to know what really went on. And they squeezed those people to find out what the dirty secrets were that existed from the Wray and Comey era. And that is how they found the burnings.
The outside inside the building. The people that remain there. There are new people coming in that are showing a new way. Success is breeding trust. And all of a sudden you have got an FBI that is doing.
And there are a lot of unique things going on inside the FBI. It is remarkable to think that we have watched the Ukraine and Russia war take place and all of these small drones creating incredible lethality, and have an FBI in America that until just a few months ago did not have a counter drone program. Just think about that. Now they are a counter drone program. That is a major change.
Agents who realized what a big change it was, they like it. Those who did not like it do not work there anymore.
Similarly, they are using artificial intelligence to sift through evidence and to reanalyze evidence in a different way. Hey, we have got phone records. We have got credit card records. Are there some connections that our eyes did not see? And I have a funny feeling when we are done that this new team that was put on there will likely have used some technology and some new capabilities to reanalyze the evidence in a way humans could not, and maybe find that nugget or two that led them on the path to this bomber.
But I think that is what is going on.
Listen, there is a Deep State everywhere still in America. There is a Deep State, as Liz Truss reminds us, all across Europe. They are alive and well. If they are not inside the Bureau, they are causing harm outside the Bureau as angry anonymous sources in news media.
But the truth of the matter is, when you look at the Bureau’s capability, and I have covered the FBI for thirty five years. I have covered this building inside out. I broke out a lot of the big whistleblower stories of the last half century. From Oklahoma City and the FBI lab to 9 11, where I won all those awards, to that.
This is a different Bureau. It is functioning differently. And it seems to have gotten back on mission a little bit more. There are still partisans. There are still incompetents. There are still resistors and Deep Staters. But the ship is starting to turn. And over time more and more of the resistors are going to get thrown overboard by the wake of what is going on.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): John, we want to hold you through the break. And I have got Mike Davis, Julie Kelly coming up. So you had a big, give us a minute on this scoop, at least the headline. You had a big scoop last night. Dark money and some of the biggest senators supported by the biggest Trump haters.
JOHN SOLOMON (GUEST): That is right. So Reid Hoffman, founder of LinkedIn, one of the biggest funders of Democratic elections in the last ten years. There was a debate that came up last time Pam Bondi was on the Hill, saying he is not a dark money guy, he is not helping the senators. The Justice Department did an investigation at the direction of the president and reported to the Senate last night that Reid Hoffman was routing dark money through different groups, and that some of the senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee, people like Dick Durbin, were the beneficiaries of that money.
A major black eye to the Democrats who often say they are against dark money until you find out they are beneficiaries of it.
We are going to talk about the implications of that.
Also, I have got to ask John about Minnesota. Massive, massive scandal. They are throwing that President Trump is a xenophobic racist. President today has at the Oval Office later for a bilat, I think the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda, about a war he stopped over there. That is how much of a racist he is. It is just such a joke. But this Minnesota thing is huge.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Okay. Kash has a press conference at, he and Bongino, at 1 p.m. It will be during the Charlie Kirk show. Real America’s Voice will cover it live. John Solomon is with us. So, John, given that all the big senators, they are ripping on Trump every day, on your judge denied this and denied it and denied it, what are the implications that now Pam Bondi has come out and shows flat out that they are stone cold liars.
JOHN SOLOMON (GUEST): Yeah. Well, it is what we have seen time and again. The senators were called out for saying, where are the illegal orders Donald Trump gave to the military. They could not provide that. These are the same senators that told us there was Russia collusion between Trump and Putin. There was not. They have been lying.
I think they made up a good part of the case against Donald Trump on Ukraine and the Korean impeachment. I think we are going to see some amazing stuff in the beginning of the year that will blow that story away and raise questions about whether perjury or false testimony was suborned.
But it is not a surprise to the American people that Democrats in the Senate or in the House have lied to them. They have about a ten year record of repeatedly seeing that. And so another instance.
I think the bigger question here now is, is there enough proof for the Justice Department in Pam Bondi’s element. And remember, you have got that ActBlue investigation that is still going on at the Justice Department. So I would keep an eye in the campaign finance unit.
Meanwhile, another thing that DOJ is doing big. Twenty six states are about to be forced to clean up their voter rolls and take off the non citizens, the dead people, the triple registrars. The twenty sixth election could be fundamentally different for the Democrats because they will not have dirty voter rolls. That is a hard meta success story. Just announced yesterday.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): By the way, so this Reid Hoffman could be in the crosshairs here. Real quickly, your thoughts on this massive scandal that has blown up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, with the governor. Billions of dollars in fraud and welfare, food assistance, all over with the Somalian community. Your thoughts.
JOHN SOLOMON (GUEST): Well, August of 2024, you will go back and see a story that I wrote with Stephen Richards. It was the roadmap for the Trump Justice Department. We wrote it because Walz wanted to be vice president. We thought it was important for the American public to know he presided over one of the greatest frauds. We have done over twenty three stories in nine months. The Justice Department followed those leads and they have got seventy seven indictees already, all of them Somalis.
So it is a major fraud case. It shows that Democrats need fraud to keep these legal and illegal immigrants in their states and cities so that they can hijack apportionment. That is what this is all about. The reason there are sanctuary cities, the reason there are fraud programs in the sanctuary cities is the Democrats are trying to create a lure to keep the largest number of bodies in their blue areas so they can keep federal funding going and potentially change the congressional map.
And absent that, what is happening is the country is turning more red. That is the dirty little secret here.
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