HARNWELL: My prediction for 2025 is that there will be a civil war inside MAGA — and we have to win
In their conversation, Steve Bannon and Ben Harnwell discuss the intense and dangerous political climate in the U.S., likening it to the “Thucydides Trap,” where a declining power resists the rise of an emergent force. They argue this dynamic exists within a single nation, with America’s entrenched sociopolitical elites, or “sociopathic overlords,” resisting the populist “America First” movement. This clash, Bannon claims, is marked by the regime’s use of aggressive measures to maintain power, making it a pivotal and perilous time in U.S. history.
Harnwell highlights the unprecedented nature of Donald Trump’s presidency and re-election bid, framing him as a leader whose power base is the people rather than a political party. This has created a direct challenge to the “deep state,” an amorphous entity that typically controls U.S. governance. They warn of potential extreme actions by elites to prevent Trump’s return to power, citing historical examples of violence and oppression.
Bannon also connects the U.S. political struggle to global instability, mentioning escalating conflicts like Russia’s missile policies and the Ukraine war, which he sees as influenced by failing U.S. leadership. Both agree on the urgency of change, stressing the need to confront the entrenched powers before more damage occurs. They view Trump’s leadership as critical for restoring balance and de-escalating domestic and international tensions.
Raheem Kassam Discusses The Elites Integration With And Rejection Of Working Class Populism
In a recent conversation between Steve Bannon and Raheem Kassam, the two discussed several provocative ideas, including the growing influence of techno-feudalism and the rise of authoritarianism in governance. Kassam shared his thoughts on a viral photo he posted, featuring a Constantinople-themed T-shirt, which was a gift from his brother. Though the photo was not meant as a joke, it struck a nerve, symbolizing a broader conversation about the future of governance and the role of Christian unity in a divided world.
The discussion quickly turned to the concept of techno-feudalism, drawing on the ideas of thinkers like Curtis Yarvin, who advocates for a return to monarchical systems and a rejection of democratic governance. Bannon and Kassam warned that many elites, especially in Silicon Valley, are not seeking approval from the public but are instead pushing forward with their vision of governance, where the masses are reduced to obedient “serfs” under a new form of technological rule.
Both men criticized the notion of human agency being replaced by AI and automation, which could strip people of their value. Kassam dismissed the idea of a “Red Caesar” led by figures like Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, who may have the resources but not necessarily the vision of a traditional American right. The conversation concluded with a stark warning about the future, stressing the need for awareness and resistance to these growing trends in governance.
Joe Allen On Civilization Transformation, Curtis Yarvin, and Elon Musk
In a conversation between Steve Bannon and Joe Allen, they delve into transhumanism and the approaching “Singularity.” Bannon believes that humanity is already at Homo sapiens 1.5, suggesting that much of the developed world is on the brink of significant change, though not necessarily toward super-intelligent AI. He discusses how visionaries like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos are pushing for the extension of life, which he sees as rooted in a “techno-religion.” Bannon argues that these figures are primarily motivated by the desire to avoid death, and their efforts focus on attaining eternal life. Allen concurs, referencing Ray Kurzweil, who popularized the idea of uploading one’s soul to achieve immortality. Allen mentions modern figures like Brian Johnson, who use technology to optimize their physiology in pursuit of longevity. Both agree that the core of transhumanism is the quest for indefinite immortality, which can be seen as a new form of religion that replaces traditional beliefs in God or the soul with a focus on technological advancement.