Jack Posobiec warns that American forces are deployed in dangerous hotspots across the globe while the seditious six are actively giving aid and comfort to cartels, adversaries, and every enemy of the American people.
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This clip aired on WarRoom’s morning show on November 25, 2025. Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity; may contain minor errors).
American Troops Are In Harm’s Way Worldwide, And The Seditious Six Are Giving Aid And Comfort To Cartels, Adversaries, And Every Enemy Of The American People
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Jack, you’re spending a couple days out in Phoenix with the Turning Point team. So much is going on around the world. Captain Fanell is going to be here. I want to talk to you about China, but I’ve got to get your thoughts on the Ukraine situation. Now we go from a 28 plan that is kind of, you know, maybe I’m not saying drawn up by the Russians but leans Russian. Now we’ve got a 19 point plan, though we haven’t seen it. We saw the 28 points. We haven’t seen the 19. It’s supposed to be more Ukrainian. We keep warning President Trump, when you start talking about sovereignty guarantees, the Europeans are not there with us. They’re never going to be around. So you know that area of the world better than anybody. What are your thoughts?
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Well, Steve, thanks so much. And we’re looking at this. And I remember having gone to the initial mineral deal plan along with Secretary Bessent. Then President Trump took me along to Anchorage, Alaska for the sit down with Putin and Lavrov. Again, you know, we need to see these 19 points. We’re told that the Russians agreed to the 28 points. Now you’ve got Secretary Driscoll who flies over there. Abu Dhabi conducts this meeting on the 19 points. But the real question here, Steve, is okay, the news just came out. The U.S. and Ukraine have agreed to this. But there’s another party in the conflict. And as they say, the enemy always gets a vote. And I see there one of the big points of contention here. These are huge points of contention, by the way. NATO style guarantees, Article 5 style guarantees, and the size of the military where they’re talking about taking it from the 600,000 cap to an 800,000 cap. That’s the current size of Ukraine’s military today. If you have to count for recruitment and losses, etc., that’s about the operational size of the Ukrainian army right now. So I don’t understand why the Russians would agree to something like that. And when you’re looking at all the military dynamics, when you’re looking at the money that the EU has continued and the United States have continued to throw into this, you know, if you want to continue this war you’re prosecuting, you’re trying to catch a falling knife. You’re just trying to catch a falling knife. And when it looks at this, I don’t know if the Russians are going to agree to it. I really don’t.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Posobiec, you’ve got breaking news for us. We had Grenell on. And this is why Ambassador Grenell, I think, is one of President Trump’s closest advisors. CNN, Axios, Politico all reporting that Maduro and President Trump are going to have direct phone conversations between the two of them. We’re not saying how it goes, but at least they’re talking instead of us going in and bombing right now. Because I believe there’s a way to get everything the United States wants to get without sending the Marines in over Thanksgiving. But POSO, this sedition six situation. I know it upsets you no end because you’re a former naval officer. It upsets me. This is incredibly dangerous, particularly when you’ve got fourteen thousand fleet Marines and sailors off the coast of Venezuela with a carrier battle group and amphitretid group. It couldn’t be more dangerous to have these people, have these six, actually talk sedition, sir.
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Well, Steve, that’s exactly right. And you wonder if you were in a situation like this, or we just saw, by the way, our special forces apparently are involved in an anti ISIS strike over in Somalia right now where they’ve taken out some leaders in one of these valleys up past Mogadishu. And look, we’ve got men in harm’s way. We’ve got sailors in harm’s way all over the place. And what they’re doing is they’re giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. Aid and comfort to the cartels. Aid and comfort to anyone who’s an enemy of the American people. It’s really as simple as that. It’s one thing if you want to say I criticize President Trump and I don’t like this policy, I don’t like what the secretary says about trans, sort of fine. All right, I get that. That’s what we called in the morning. I think you and I both know what happens when a captain detects a mutiny plot. No, it’s not pretty.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Uh, no. It’s not pretty. So do you actually, I say this. I say they’re trying to cause a mutiny, and they ought to be. I agree with Secretary of War Hegseth. You should recall Mark Kelly right now, and you should try him. You should court martial him. I don’t know why we’re not doing it with more of these people. Your thoughts.
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Any military member knows that if you accept that retirement, if you’re accepting that pension, then that means you’re bound and held to the confines of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You learn that day one in the military. You learn that as soon as you sign those papers. It’s something they teach you when you take your UCMJ class. Everybody knows this. So it’s really simple. If you’ve been taking the money, and he has been taking the money, then that means he’s bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and as such can be called back to active service to stand court martial for breaking the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And look, you look at something like this, and I’d say you’ve got to make an example. You’ve got to make an example. Do we have standards or not. Look what they did. They just threw out the case on Comey. They threw out the case on Letitia James. We know obviously they’re working to appeal that, but you have to play hardball. Because if you don’t, then they’ll continue to do this. They’ll continue to undermine the president. And I’ve said this a number of times now. What they’re doing is trying to set up the next impeachment the exact same way they set up the first impeachment with whistleblowers and leakers from the intelligence community. Remember Vindman. Remember Ciaramella. That’s what they’re trying to do. So that’s supporting a felony right there, by the way, if you’re leaking classified information. But they don’t care because they want anyone who has access to privileged information on President Trump or Secretary Hegseth to be leaking it to them so that they can set up another impeachment if they have the ability to, if they take back the House come 2026.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Poso, your thoughts and observations. Because Captain Fanell, you’ve got to go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire. When he calls for a U.S. Senator, former Navy captain, to be recalled to active duty and court martialed as a necessity. Your thoughts.
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Steve, Captain Fanell is exactly correct, as usual. Because what this is is not about punishing Mark Kelly. It’s not about retaliating against Mark Kelly or anything about that. It’s about upholding the standards of the uniformed military, uniformed armed services of the United States of America. If you have that chain of command, the chain of command has to be sacrosanct. The chain of command has to be unbroken. When there are issues, if you have issues with the commander, if you have issues of lack of leadership, Navy Academy just relieved their commandant yesterday, some incidents out at O’Briens in Annapolis, I’m told. So there are ways to go about this. You do it the right way if you have an issue. But what he’s doing out there is grandstanding. He’s putting our armed forces service members at risk. And it absolutely is a situation where we have a question. Do the members of the military, when they are members of the military, and keep in mind they did this on purpose to get that response from President Trump. They were grandstanding. They knew exactly what they were doing. That’s why they went to veterans. And that’s why they went to the senior man, Mark Kelly. Because he got up there and he knew he was breaking and violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So the question is, do we have one standard, one standard whereby all members of the armed forces are held, or do we play games like these people are now trying to say? And just because he’s done some other stuff in his private life, that means he’s not held to those standards. I say no. I say hold everyone to the same standard.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Jack, you’ve got some breaking news. What do you got for us, sir?
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Well, Steve, we have some text messages that came my way. Now, this isn’t involving one of the seditious six, but it is someone who’s been defending the seditious six. And in fact, it’s text messages that were leaked to me from a source directly associated with Senator Ruben Gallego, a Democrat from Arizona, himself a Marine Corps corporal. And in these text messages, which you can see directly from him, Ruben G. up there at the top, he’s trashing the Democrat Party. He’s going against his party. He’s talking about how much the Democrat Party is awful. This is the same guy, by the way, who spent the entire week going on TV saying that Pete Hegseth is a coward, saying that we shouldn’t investigate Mark Kelly for these statements. So he’ll say that in public, and he’ll go after Hegseth, but then in private, what’s he doing. He’s trashing his own party. And he’s admitting how bad they make everybody look. And I think we sent the text messages over, and if you guys want to show them up, we can put them up there because these are the messages. And look, you know, this is what it just goes to show you. They are liars. They are two faced. They will never admit in public what they believe in private. These are Democrats. And you saw I press Mamdani on the exact same thing when he was up there trying to play that little two step game in the Oval Office, pretending he’s Mr. Nice. And what did Mamdani do when he goes back to New York. He hired the professor who wrote The End of Policing. Steve, Ruben Gallego, Mamdani, Mark Kelly. They’re all cut from the same cloth. Their loyalty is to their own personal brands. Their loyalty is to themselves. You can never believe the things that they say.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Jack, we got to bounce. Captain, we got to bounce. But Jack, Captain said the problem, the buried lead, is that we’re spending too much time on the Middle East, we’re spending too much time on the Israel situation, too much time with Ukraine, and not enough time with the main thing. Jack, give me 30 seconds on your coordinates before we bounce.
JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): Well, Steve, that’s exactly right. This has always been about the reverse Kissinger. Secure the rapprochement with the Russians and then pivot to China in a serious way. And you’ve seen elements of the Pentagon say if they want to do this, that’s the way forward for the United States. That is the challenge of the 21st century.
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