Introduction: Unpacking Key Issues with Bannon and Ziegler
Steve Bannon and Garrett Ziegler from Marco Polo 501 c3 sat down in the WarRoom DC studio to discuss pressing political matters, including the Biden family scandal, Hunter Biden’s legal troubles, and the future of justice in America. With Bannon’s prison experience and Ziegler’s investigative work, this conversation offers fresh insights into the political landscape and accountability.
Hunter Biden’s Legal Struggles: The Need for Accountability
One of the most intense points of discussion was Hunter Biden’s legal issues. Ziegler, a key figure in the investigation, raised the possibility of blanket pardons from Joe Biden to shield his family members. “If Joe is looking out for them, he should [pardon], but that’s not going to happen without consequences,” Ziegler said. He emphasized that Hunter Biden’s potential prison sentence could lead to serious political repercussions, particularly in a federal prison setting.
The Role of Pardons: A Family Affair?
When Bannon was asked about the prospect of a presidential pardon for Hunter Biden, he expressed skepticism. He stated that while Hunter may face serious prison time, Joe Biden’s administration is unlikely to offer a blanket pardon. “If Joe is really looking out for his son, he should act. But, I think Hunter’s going to have to face the music,” Bannon added. Ziegler further commented on the situation, stating, “If Trump gets involved, it’s going to have political consequences. He should stay out of it.”
Biden Family’s Corruption: A Pattern of Cover-Ups
The conversation also touched on the broader scope of the Biden family’s alleged corruption, especially the actions of Joe Biden’s brother, Jimmy Biden. According to Ziegler, Jimmy Biden’s criminal behavior has largely gone unpunished. "Jimmy’s gotten off scot-free,” Ziegler said. Bannon added, "We’ve got the evidence, and it’s going to come out soon. This is about accountability, not political gamesmanship.”
Pardons or Retribution?
There was an underlying theme of retribution and justice throughout the discussion. Bannon, having spent time in prison, drew parallels between the justice system’s treatment of the powerful versus ordinary citizens. “Mandatory minimums have destroyed lives, especially in communities of color,” Bannon noted. Ziegler echoed this sentiment, pointing out that many people serve time for crimes far less serious than those allegedly committed by the Biden family. "The system isn’t equal for everyone,” Ziegler remarked.
Shifting the DOJ’s Focus: Time for a Change
Both Bannon and Ziegler advocated for a dramatic overhaul of the Department of Justice (DOJ). “We need to get the right people in place,” Ziegler said, pushing for the appointment of new U.S. Attorneys who will prioritize real justice. Bannon added that the DOJ has been politicized and needs to be returned to its original mandate. “We can’t have these agencies running the country unchecked,” Bannon argued.
Firing Bureaucrats: A Radical Solution for Government Reform
A significant portion of their conversation focused on the need to shake up Washington’s bureaucratic system. “The career bureaucrats, those at Schedule C, need to be fired,” Bannon insisted. Ziegler concurred, emphasizing that any president should be able to remove those who fail to serve the public interest. “This isn’t about politics. It’s about getting the government back in line with the Constitution,” Ziegler said.
The Path Forward: What’s Next for the Biden Investigation?
Looking ahead, the next step for the Biden investigation is the upcoming trial in September 2025. Ziegler expressed optimism about the outcome, believing the mounting evidence will lead to accountability. "We’ve got the evidence, and it’s going to be laid bare soon,” he said. Bannon, however, was cautious about expecting quick results, stating, "Justice in this country is a long game.”
Accountability Must Prevail
In their conversation, both Bannon and Ziegler made it clear that the fight for accountability is far from over. They both expressed frustration with the current state of the justice system, particularly when it comes to high-profile figures like the Bidens. “We need to hold them to the same standards as anyone else,” Bannon stated. Ziegler echoed this sentiment, adding, “The American people deserve justice, and we’re going to make sure they get it.”
What’s at Stake?
The discussions between Bannon and Ziegler revealed the deep frustration many feel about the political class and the justice system. With investigations, trials, and potential pardons on the horizon, the future of American justice remains uncertain. What is clear, however, is that both Bannon and Ziegler are committed to pushing for real change and holding powerful figures accountable.
For more context, watch the full discussion between Ziegler and Bannon: