Ryan Grim explains how a UK political network tied to Keir Starmer built a system that targeted Breitbart and other conservative outlets for demonetization.
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This clip aired on WarRoom’s morning show on December 4, 2025. Transcript begins below (lightly edited for clarity; may contain minor errors).
RYAN GRIM: The UK Is a Prime Example of What Would Happen Without Our First Amendment Right
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Ryan Grim joins us now from DropSite News. Sir, you had a piece yesterday talking about how, I guess, the Labour government or Starmer is going out of its way to shut down the monetization of sites like Breitbart. But I want you to step back for a second and tell, because I think, okay, what is the difference in the UK and the US. As tough as it is in the US, the UK is actually laying out a model that a lot of the radical Democrats want to use to shut down free speech. Can you walk us through it?
RYAN GRIM (GUEST): I mean, one of the great things about the United States is that we have a First Amendment. I think a lot of people don’t realize how special and unique that is. And the First Amendment allows not just journalists, but any citizen to publish classified information, to register a hateful opinion if they want to do so. If you don’t have a First Amendment, the government can dictate what can be published and can define what counts as hate, what counts as hate speech. Obviously, here in the United States, you can’t direct violent threats at somebody. That is a crime. But beyond that, you have deep First Amendment protections. And in the UK now, you have very little protection around speech if what you’re saying is determined to be against what the government says is allowed. They’re going particularly after critics of Israel, but it goes broader than that too.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): So what are they doing specifically with Breitbart? Talk about this demonetization. How does it actually work?
RYAN GRIM (GUEST): So this came up during the pushback against Jeremy Corbyn. You have to go back to that period. Corbynism takes over the Labour Party. And what we now know, and this comes from an adapted excerpt from the book The Fraud by Paul Holden. I highly recommend it. It’s an investigation into Keir Starmer. And they’re going after Jeremy Corbyn. They identify the media structure that developed around Corbyn. That’s mostly a left wing structure. And they secretly finance these organizations that are said to be grassroots Britons who are simply concerned about misinformation, disinformation, and hate speech. What we can now reveal is that this was part of Keir Starmer’s political machine, and the goal was to defeat Corbynism and take over the Labour Party via Keir Starmer.
But while they’re going after the left, they also start going after alt right and right wing populist media as well. That’s where Breitbart and also The Federalist and ZeroHedge and others come into their sights. They start with the government office and the parliament and get them to demonetize Breitbart. Then they go further. They go to Ford, other corporations, and they start to create avenues for corporations to simply say, oh, if this organization says I shouldn’t be placing my ads on this news site, then I won’t. And that’s how you demonetize news organizations, which they did to Breitbart, The Federalist, and others.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Now that you’ve broken the story, is there going to be a remedy, or is the UK still, because everybody knows, very hesitant to say certain things in the UK, to talk about certain topics, even going on some shows without being shut down or having charges brought against them.
RYAN GRIM (GUEST): Frankly, I think it depends on what conservatives here in the United States do, because when he was running this operation, Trump was in the wilderness. And the Starmer operation came after Trump directly as well in the context of Brexit and their disagreements with Trump politically. They didn’t think Trump would be coming back. Now that Trump is back in the White House and Breitbart, The Federalist, and others haven’t been destroyed, he did manage to destroy a lot of left wing outlets in the UK. The right wing outlets have survived. So the question is, will there be pressure applied to Starmer, whose chief of staff orchestrated this. His current chief of staff is the one who was the leading director behind this campaign. So it depends on what the conservative movement here in the US does to put pressure on Starmer.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): And that pressure would look like what?
RYAN GRIM (GUEST): I think public statements from conservative figures to say that this type of censorship of American news outlets is far beyond the pale. We’re entitled to our opinion about the way they censor British news outlets, but censoring American outlets is something else entirely.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): Amazing. Ryan, we’re going to be all over the story. I look forward to having you back. I want people to start going to your site on DropSite News. Where do people go? What’s your social media?
RYAN GRIM (GUEST): Yeah, DropSiteNews.com on all social, and we are on all social platforms @DropSiteNews. Yeah, I think you are, I think the posse will find a lot useful there. I think they will find a lot useful.
STEVE BANNON (HOST): You’re an intrepid reporter, sir, and a voice of truth. Sometimes people love it and sometimes people love it less but you’re a warrior. Thank you so much for joining us. Ryan Grim, one of the toughest guys, tough as boot leather.
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