On Episode 30 of War Room: Impeachment, hosts Stephen K. Bannon and Jason Miller discuss the background of today’s witness, former United States Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

Miller begins with a brief biography: “[Yovanovitch was] born in Canada in 1958. Her parents had fled from the Soviet Union and the Nazis. She moved to the US at the age of 3, and became a citizen at age 18. […] She graduated with her Bachelors in history and Russian sciences from Princeton, and then studied in Moscow.”

On a more personal level: “Her long time friend who also works in the State Department said of Yovanovitch “she grew up speaking Russian, so she has that special sensitivity to those issues in Ukraine.” This is from one of her best friends. […] So you can see already this is very much a personal feeling for her.”

Miller explains Yovanovitch’s relevance to impeachment: “She has no firsthand knowledge of anything and previously testified that Trump was stronger on helping Ukraine than Obama. This is the whole missiles vs blankets comparison. And Yovanovitch has also testified repeatedly it’s okay for the US to tie Ukraine aid to the country’s cracking down on corruption.”

Bannon adds: “At the core of this, Yovanovitch was upset she was recalled [by Trump] 3 months early.”

According to Yovanovitch, she was “bullied” out of her position, but Miller describes otherwise: “One of the big things around the time she was dismissed, and this was the criticism that was coming from Mayor Giuliani and from Don Jr. and a whole host of others […] was that she had given Ukraine’s top prosecutor a list of names she did not want to see prosecuted. […] But this is really the central point. This is why she felt there was this smear campaign against her.”

Also, “There were allegations that Yovanovitch had blocked Ukrainian officials from traveling to the US to hand over evidence of Obama and Democrat misconduct during 2016 election. This is key.”

Bannon asks “What’s the big deal they have a great love for the country they are going to represent? […] Is this the revolt against expertism?”

Miller responds: “There’s a very distinct belief among many in the foreign service that they were here before President Trump, and they will be after. They know the natural order of things. They know what the US is supposed to be doing, and therefore, this bumpkin, this rube, however they want to try to slight President Trump and his supporters, they don’t know anything about foreign policy.”

Trump’s America First deviates “from the way things have been done before” which is the precise reason he won in 2016: “He largely won on the foreign policy failures from both parties over the last 3 decades.”