On Episode 154 of War Room: 2020 Raheem Kassam and Jason Miller discussed what happened in Iowa for Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg, Kassam noting Iowa “was Bernie’s to lose.”

“Do we have a winner yet? Or do we not have a winner yet?” Miller asked his co-host, referring to the Iowa caucus that took place on Monday. 

Amidst calls for the DNC chair to step down over the caucus fiasco, he continued: “do we still have a chairman of the DNC?”

“Supposedly,” Kassam responded, “we are now at one hundred per cent of the count in Iowa”

“Although the New York Times’ Iowa caucus results page is still showing ninety-nine percent reporting; effectively one precinct still not declared as far as the New York Times is concerned. But CNN and the rest are saying that Iowa is in, and that the victor is Mayor Pete.”

“One of the problems with that is that the numbers are so thin. The delegate equivalents and the percentages between Buttigieg and Sanders [are] so wafer thin: 564, Buttigieg; 562 Sanders. And that’s a percentage of 26.2 versus 26.2 – as far as the New York Times’ numbers are concerned anyway.”


“It’s so wafer thin that against the backdrop of how this has all played out, you can’t really declare a winner,” Kassam asserted.

“Now we know that Pete Buttigieg declared victory before the caucus was even finished, frankly. But if I was Bernie Sanders- and Bernie Sanders should wish to be like someone else in this scenario, because being himself is not doing himself any favors. But if I was Bernie Sanders, I would be apoplectic about this and say: look, this cannot count. You cannot put this on a knife edge when you’ve had all these app problems, these reporting problems, the length of the count, the whole debacle around everything. You just can’t do it.”

“But Bernie Sanders is doing the thing that Bernie Sanders is best known for doing. Which is effectively bending over and saying ‘please, sir, may I have another,’” Kassam continued, referencing the movie Animal House.

“It’s what happened to him in 2016 with Hillary: he got screwed and gypped six ways from Sunday by Hillary Clinton and the DNC – she obviously had the DNC in her pocket, Donna Brazile effectively admitted that. And it’s happening to him again. And he’s not angry about it. He’s not doing anything about it. He’s not on the television causing a ruckus everyday. He’s scarcely calling the whole thing into question.”

“Isn’t that just socialism, though?” Miller asked. 

Kassam added: “Everyone gets an equal percentage of the vote…The redistribution of caucus delegates.”

“You make a great point,” Miller backed his co-host. “Literally [the delegate equivalent is] 564 to 562, as you pointed out here. But keep in mind, some of the dynamics of how these delegate equivalents came about: they were coin tosses, they were rounding errors. There are so many reasons for Bernie to be pissed off. If only he was physically capable of being pissed off.”

“Bernie got 45,826 vote. Mayor Pete [got] 43,195,” Miller explained. “So literally one or two coin tosses – and there were a bunch of coin tosses. It wasn’t just the goofy little kid with everyone standing around… There were coin tosses galore, all over the place.”

“I do think they need to re canvas and get to the bottom of this. But usually the winner of these things gets about a three-point bounce. Mayor Pete has gotten probably a three-point, if not a four-point bounce.”

“New Hampshire comes up on Tuesday,” Miller continued, pointing out polling shows Buttigieg and Sanders neck in neck. “The momentum is all on Pete’s side. And it seems like he’s doing that largely by taking a chunk out of Joe Biden.”

“Because CIA Pete knew he could come out early [in Iowa] and declare victory and get the polling bounce you get by being the victor,” Kassam said.

He elaborated: “Bernie’s not a winner. He doesn’t have a winner’s instincts. The whole thing should have been his to lose. Even though the media was treating Joe Biden like the front runner, what people actually knew about his fundraising, about the rally sizes, about the strength and depth of his campaign is that it was [Bernie’s] to lose. And once again he’s giving it away.”

“If I were Bernie Sanders, I would have done exactly what Pete Buttigieg did: come out early, say it looks like victory for us, we’re moving on to New Hampshire. And then let this all play out in the background. Pete knows this will all be an afterthought as soon as the results of New Hampshire are in. Bernie doesn’t behave like that.”

“And that’s why, by the way,” Kassam continued, “if Bernie does get the nomination still and goes into an election against President Trump and against the Trump campaign team, he will constantly be on the backfoot. He will not be a threat in terms of messaging. Because Bernie and Bernie’s team do not know how to get ahead of a story. They do not know how to play offensive.”